he's bringing bruce springsteen who madison loves. it's going to be a morning rally. i suspect not a lot of work will get done that day. >> let's talk about paul ryan. this is unusual that man that's running for two seats in one day. is he in trouble in this house seat? this is probably the best candidate, i keep hearing this that rob zerban is the most formidable candidate that's gone against paul ryan. >> ryan has never had below 57% of the vote. he's won pretty big. he's got a lot of advantages here. rob zerban just worked it. there's no question. he's been an incredibly impressive candidate. the interesting thing is one of the big things he's kept knocking on is that the fact that ryan won't debate him. ryan was in wisconsin six times and couldn't find time to debate him. >> joe biden had him on stage a couple of times. this guy zerban is a self-made guy. this is what the republicans look for. he said i was dirt poor growing up. how does it play? >> i think it plays well. he's been a local elected official. i drove through the district and i saw zerban signs in th